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Old 22-12-2015, 05:38 PM   #141
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this doesn't sound good Daz, you were making such good progress

will you go see someone to have it assessed?

or simply wait for it to pass?

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Old 16-01-2016, 11:20 AM   #142
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Very cool to see your running journey in this thread Daz, I hope your knee is back in ship shape so you can keep running soon!
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Old 25-01-2016, 03:51 PM   #143
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Hi Guys,

Ok, so it has been a bit of a struggle. I have been intermitantly on and ioff training. Timeline below to explain what has been happening:

Since XC, gave the knee a complete rest for a couple of weeks.

07-01-15
Easy run
Time: 38:10
Pace: 4:58min/km
Dist: 7.68 km
Ave HR: 139
Max HR: 173
Ave Cadence: 154spm
Ave. Stride: 1.31m

Awesome. No signs of any knee issue whatsoever...

11-01-15
Easy run
Time: 31:56
Pace: 5:05min/km
Dist: 6.28 km
Ave HR: 134
Max HR: 172
Ave Cadence: 158spm
Ave. Stride: 1.24m

13-01-15
Easy run
Time: 315:03
Pace: 5:41min/km
Dist: 2.65 km
Ave HR: 143
Max HR: 175
Ave Cadence: 152spm
Ave. Stride: 1.16m

Dinner not sitting well. Felt awful, turning rounding and gently jogged home.

14-01-15
Easy run
Time: 47:48
Pace: 5:00min/km
Dist: 9.54 km
Ave HR: 170
Max HR: 186
Ave Cadence: 154spm
Ave. Stride: 1.30m

Pushed a bit hard but getting frustrated with lack of running... you can see from HR, fitness starting to drop off.

15-01-15
Easy run
Time: 46:01
Pace: 5:00min/km
Dist: 9.21 km
Ave HR: 167
Max HR: 187
Ave Cadence: 153spm
Ave. Stride: 1.31m

Hilly run. Felt good.

17-01-15
LONG SLOW RUN
Time: 1:46:27
Pace: 5:29min/km
Dist: 91.42 km
Ave HR: 127
Max HR: 168
Ave Cadence: 156spm
Ave. Stride: 1.17m

Very pleasant run with a few club mates.

18-01-15
Easy Recovery run
Time: 33:25
Pace: 5:21min/km
Dist: 6.25 km
Ave HR: 112
Max HR: 151
Ave Cadence: 158spm
Ave. Stride: 1.19m

HR on this one??? was nice and easy but that is low...Garmin blip I think. Calf a bit tight after this run.

19-01-15
Easy run
Time: 33:32
Pace: 5:23min/km
Dist: 6.23 km
Ave HR: 151
Max HR: 178
Ave Cadence: 159spm
Ave. Stride: 1.17m

Was feeling a bit tires, tried to keep it slow and gentle given the long run on Sunday. Got home, again the right calf was a bit tight. got up next morning and could barely walk. I have not run since. It has been feeling very heavy and a little strained. Been resting up and weighing up my options.
It could just simpley be twinge picked up during Sunday's run I wasn't really aware of when it happened.
it could be my new running shoes but I do not see how, been using since since Christmas with no issues. same model as i had previously for continuity.

I have been a bit down-hearted with these various issues holding me back over the last few months. I didn't want to bring any negativity to the forum. The plan is to try and get back out tonight and just run easy for this week. Maybe cut training back to allow more recovery days (which you can see above I had been doing over last couple of weeks) and see what happens.

As for any racing, no way. I have had a quick look online to see what is around but I dare not enter anything until I am feeling confident that I can finish the race and be happy with the performance.

Thank you for the kind Words NicBathgate. Are you new? If so welcome to the site!

A Very Frustrated Darren.
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Old 26-01-2016, 11:04 AM   #144
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Hi Darren, sorry to hear of the frustrations, hopefully you are able to find a solution to get you back up & running without problems soon

are you doing any exercises to assist yourself with the various problems?

hang in there

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Old 26-01-2016, 01:07 PM   #145
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We are currently in the process of turning the cellar into a gym so strength excercises can be done in a controlled environment. There just isn't enough to go to the gym or currently space in house to do any strength work. i already realised that lack of strength work is a support factor and looking to remedy it ASAP.

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Old 04-02-2016, 12:59 PM   #146
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Started a bit of yoga/strength work at the begining of the week. Will build it up gently, even though I haven't done much, parts of me are still hurting from it so it is doing something good!

01-02-15
Easy run
Time: 34:22
Pace: 5:23min/km
Dist: 6.23 km
Ave HR: 145
Max HR: 169
Ave Cadence: 154spm
Ave. Stride:
Some pain just above ankle in right leg. Put this down to insoles so changed up for next run.

03-02-15
Easy run
Time: 50:34
Pace: 5:17min/km
Dist: 9.57 km
Ave HR: 141
Max HR: 175
Ave Cadence: 153spm
Ave. Stride:
Leg felt much better with standard insoles removed and aftermarket one in only.

Another run planned for tonight, nice and steady on the pace. Rest up tomorrow and decide whether to do one Sunday. if this week and next week goes good then will look at doing a time trial to get back into cycles.

Thank you for all the support and advice over the last few years. It is much appreciated.

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Old 09-02-2016, 07:54 AM   #147
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Hi Daz, if you able to avoid injuries and stay on track, you should move to a new level once you get back to racing fitness.

What the past few years has given you is experience, and this is a mighty great tool when it comes to racing

so here's to the new season and may the progression be great

onwards

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Old 21-03-2016, 12:51 PM   #148
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Not much to update. completely lost confidence about running. It is very difficult when you are repeatedly trying to come back from injury and break down again third run in.

Looking to start again this week. Just some gentle hour long runs every couple of days for now and ease into it gently. Still not managed to organise a sports massage due to work commitments and car problems that are more of a priority.

Will hopefully be able to report in soon with some more positive news than of late. I miss running and it is starting to get me down.

Last few runs:

01-02-15
Progessive run
Time: 34:22
Pace: 5:23min/km
Dist: 6.23 km
Ave HR: 145
Max HR: 169
Ave Cadence: 154spm
Ave. Stride:

22-02-16
Easy run
Time: 1:02:55
Pace: 5:20min/km
Dist: 11.8 km
Ave HR: 166
Max HR: 184
Ave Cadence: 153spm
Ave. Stride: 1.23m

23-02-16
Easy run
Time: 34:10
Pace: 5:34min/km
Dist: 11.8 km
Ave HR: 154
Max HR: 169
Ave Cadence: 158spm
Ave. Stride: 1.14m

25-02-16
Easy run
Time: 15:37
Pace: 5:20min/km
Dist: 2.93 km
Ave HR: no data
Max HR: no data
Ave Cadence: 150spm
Ave. Stride: 1.25m

Last run. Pulled up with a tight left thigh. Not run since


Hope all is well your end TheEd and everyone reading.


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Old 22-03-2016, 06:45 AM   #149
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Daz, work on the one day on one day off routine, do not look to run 2 days in a row. Use the off day to focus on maintaining your legs and avoiding niggles

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Old 25-05-2016, 12:11 PM   #150
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Update:

It's been a while so better update you all with where I am at. I am still battling on and trying to get myself back to running regulary. Here is what I have done since the last update. It was a few weeks before i go tout again and only managed two runs before having another break: HR monitor sensor stopped working on my watch so no data for now

22-03-16
Easy run
Time: 51:45
Pace: 5:31min/km
Dist: 9.37 km
Ave Cadence: 154spm
Ave. Stride: 1.18m


24-03-16
Easy run
Time: 50:12
Pace: 5:31min/km
Dist: 9.40 km
Ave Cadence: 155spm
Ave. Stride: 1.21m

Then another break due to more issues, mainly motivational. So more or less starting again from scratch at this point:

19-04-16
Easy run
Time: 33:05
Pace: 5:17min/km
Dist: 6.27 km
Ave Cadence: 150spm
Ave. Stride: 1.26m

Then ANOTHER GAP

03-05-16
Easy run
Time: 33:05
Pace: 5:17min/km
Dist: 6.27 km
Ave Cadence: 150spm
Ave. Stride: 1.26m


04-05-16
Easy run
Time: 38:54
Pace: 5:24min/km
Dist: 7.20 km
Ave Cadence: 152spm
Ave. Stride: 1.22m

05-05-16
Easy run
Time: 33:27
Pace: 5:24min/km
Dist: 6.20 km
Ave Cadence: 153spm
Ave. Stride: 1.21m

08-05-16
Long run
Time: 1:26:55
Pace: 5:48min/km
Dist: 15.00 km
Ave Cadence: 153spm
Ave. Stride: 1.13m

09-05-16
Recovery run
Time: 34:25
Pace: 5:33min/km
Dist: 6.23 km
Ave Cadence: 151spm
Ave. Stride: 1.19m

11-05-16
Easy run
Time: 56:37
Pace: 5:23min/km
Dist: 10.53 km
Ave Cadence: 152spm
Ave. Stride: 1.22m

12-05-16
Recovery run
Time: 33:18
Pace: 5:20min/km
Dist: 6.24 km
Ave Cadence: 153spm
Ave. Stride: 1.23m

14-05-16
Warm Up run
Time: 7:35
Pace: 5:40min/km
Dist: 1.34 km
Ave Cadence: 152spm
Ave. Stride: 1.16m

14-05-16
Park Run Pacer - 25mins
Time: 24:40
Pace: 5:56min/km
Dist: 4.99 km
Ave Cadence: 150spm
Ave. Stride: 1.35m

Splits (just for fun )

1. 5:03
2. 4:57
3. 4:57
4. 4:52
5. 4:51

Not bad considering I thought I was going to be really pushing myself to run that quick but it was well within ease..

14-05-16
Warm Down run
Time: 8:27
Pace: 5:28min/km
Dist: 1.55 km
Ave Cadence: 153spm
Ave. Stride: 1.20m

15-05-16
Long run
Time: 1:28:54
Pace: 5:30min/km
Dist: 16.15 km
Ave Cadence: 157spm
Ave. Stride: 1.16m

16-05-16
Recovery run
Time: 32:35
Pace: 5:14min/km
Dist: 6.23 km
Ave Cadence: 154spm
Ave. Stride: 1.24m

16-05-16
Easy run
Time: 33:02
Pace: 5:20min/km
Dist: 6.20 km
Ave Cadence: 155spm
Ave. Stride: 1.21m

23-05-16
Easy run
Time: 32:50
Pace: 5:17min/km
Dist: 6.21 km
Ave Cadence: 151spm
Ave. Stride: 1.25m

24-05-16
10km Easy run
Time: 56:03
Pace: 5:19min/km
Dist: 10.55 km
Ave Cadence: 153spm
Ave. Stride: 1.23m


And that is it to date. Been trying to build up recovery and energy levels mainly before doing anything too strenuous.

Was thinking about factoring in some speedwork soon, maybe Thursday this week. Nothing harsh, just a few 2km ints at 04:30 per KM to loosen it up and get into that routine again. The run yesterday felt the most comfortable by far yet. hardly broke a sweat.

I have also been doing a lot of core/upper body routines as was very unsteady when first started running again regulary. Core was too soft to maintain decent balance. That is building up nicely.

Still carying a lot of weight compared to when I was up to 11st 7lbs at start of this month. Shaved a bit off that now as starting to tone up again but still carrying that extra stone compared to this time last year ad don't think that is going to shift as it is mostly in the legs still.

I want to get back onto the sub 45 cycle when the time feels right but feel I need to test the water in terms of the speedwork first. It the 2km reps go ok then I will be looking your advice on what to do next TheEd.

Sorry I have been away for so long, didn't want to spread negative vibes on the forum so thought it best to come back with something positive to discuss

Darren.
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